Got an aftermarket clip for my Bell
it uses the loops for the D rings.
Can’t recall the make of the clips will look when I get home. Quick and easy

 

Never thought to consider that on my Arai. Maybe specific to the model or a manufacture batch?

 

I noticed my XD4 strap feels short as well. Would be interested if anything can be done.

 

I can't say I have had an issue with the XD4's myself.

Is it too little strap or too much chin? ʘ‿ʘ

Kidding of course. But if anyone would know if there was a longer strap available Arai would know.

I am leery of the 3rd party strap extenders. A have had a few people say they have failed in accidents/offs, including one in our riding club. But I do understand that there are several different manufacturers of these and they may not all be created equal.

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I can't say I have had an issue with the XD4's myself.

Is it too little strap or too much chin? ʘ‿ʘ

Kidding of course. But if anyone would know if there was a longer strap available Arai would know.

I am leery of the 3rd party strap extenders. A have had a few people say they have failed in accidents/offs, including one in our riding club. But I do understand that there are several different manufacturers of these and they may not all be created equal.

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I didn't want to say Cuch, but now don't have too.

In fact, maybe I am meatless (actually the opposite), because I find I have to secure the excess strap with the button-down. If I don't, I get a whippin' on the freeway.

 

I thought maybe it was the beard lol. Back when I used to ride I had maybe 1/2” of a goatee, now I’m getting a bit bushier. Not too long yet, but I don’t intent on shaving for a while.

It goes on fine, just seems like my old helmet had a longer strap.

 

it probably did have longer straps than the Arai. Arai makes some interesting choices sometimes. I have had Nexx and Shoei helmet in the past and I do think they had longer steps on the D-Ring side. But found Arai fits my head better and I think I just got used to it

 

Aria straps are not too short, they are perfect for those not lazy enough to put on and take off properly.

 

I never thought of helmet straps, let alone Arai straps, until I read this Forum thread.

 

Thank God I have a Shoei head!!

 

I used to have a Shoei head. Now I have an Arai head. My XD4 is a triple-X. I could not get it over my forehead with the chin strap fastened. And the strap is just long enough to get through the D's and turn back for the snap. No more, no less. As the weight penalty of a longer strap would undoubtedly impact the performance of man & machine, I'm happy with where it sits today.

 

I have a more neutral head so I can wear multi-brand. But I am guessing all brands have their own unique issues. Such as my Hornet X2. If you remove the peak it leaves a hole in the center of the helmet that whistles like a tea kettle if you don't put some tape over it. My Schuberth C3 Pro has some alignment issues with the modular front that it has been back to Schuberth twice now to address.

I haven't had a Nolan or a Bell, but I am guessing they have their own unique issues



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I use a Nolan modular and my quick assessment is:

• General solid build.
• Things can tear off (e.g. gaskets).
• Freeway noise is high.
• My lips hit the inside surface mouth guard (a bit of a bummer).
• I would say it is a heavy helmet.
• Chin strap works extremely well. It is the ratchet style.

 

I use a Nolan modular (N-102) as well. Seems to be the best fit for my head at a reasonable price. I have never broken a pair of eye glasses since using a modular. With normal full face helmets, I would break several pairs of sunglasses a season. Now that my eye glasses are prescription I can't afford to break them. I really like the ratchet style fastener on the strap. It works well and has quite a wide range for adjustment. On those occasions when you don't want to remove your helmet when picking something up, revealing your face by flipping up the chin bar leaves the cashier much more relaxed.

 

I love my Schuberth C3 Pro other than the occasional alignment issue with the front clips. You have to use some care to make sure they both properly engage.

It is relatively light for a modular. It is very quiet even at highway speeds. I never broke a pair of glasses with it. The ratchet-style chin strap works great. The dropdown visor works very well and you can get several shades ranging from light to dark gray, yellow, orange, blue, mirrored. The same goes for the visor itself. Actually more colors for the visor. Very comfortable to wear. The "Stay Cool" liner does keep pretty cool. and a great warranty, including a damage/crash warranty.

Aside from the occasional alignment niggle, the other issue would be mounting Bluetooth comms other than the Schuberth proprietary one or the Sena SMH-10 U that I currently have installed.

I had a buddy who had a Nolan. I can't recall the model. But the front release mechanism sometimes refused to work on it. But it may have been a user issue (meaning he damaged it somehow). Dunno.

 

Never had a modular mechanical issue on the Nolan, and I am pretty hard on it. However, I can't imagine being trapped in one if it wouldn't open. It ain't coming off otherwise. I can just see another person offering help coming at the helmet with a handheld radial saw. ???

 

It was an older one. N95, N100. I can't recall. Nolans are all N-something?

He was traveling with a buddy and he couldn't get it off for awhile when they got to the hotel apparently. That would have to be a bit of an "oh s---!" moment.

It was a white helmet. Maybe he just needed a set of white leathers and he could have gone around looking like The Stig from Top Gear.

Though he wears a Simpson Diamondback

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That is one spooky helmet. At least it covers the neck.

 

Simpson has a couple of "spooky" helmets including that Diamondback, the Bandit line (Ghost Bandit, Outlaw Bandit, Street Bandit, the Mod (Modular) Bandit, the glow in the dark Aura Bandit) as well as the M30 and M50. I have never owned one, but I might give one a try sometime.

Kind of a mean-looking modular.

 

I assume from the thread straying into a general discussion about Nolan helmets that so far, no one has the faintest idea about the question raised in the OP?

Cheers Paul.

 

I assume from the thread straying into a general discussion about Nolan helmets that so far, no one has the faintest idea about the question raised in the OP?

Cheers Paul.

I already gave the OP the best advice I could think of in post #5. Contact Arai, because if anyone would know it would be Arai. I am not aware of any 3rd party options

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My fav helmet is my 3/4 Arai and the strap works flawlessly. I do not wear gloves when fiddling with the strap.

 

I also gave the answer the OP probably doesn’t want to read....

 

I read it but resisted rising to the bait...

Back on topic, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of getting a reply from Arai currently.
So, the answer is in my own un-gloved hands, I must loose a chin and not be so f@cking lazy. ?

 

I agree. Got an tour x4?, ridiculous. Got a couple of Shoei’s as well. Much better straps. Other than that, I love the helmet 👍

 

Surely the Arai strap is just about perfect ? No long end, what’s there button snaps together without anything extra dangling about your neck annoying you.....I really don’t see the problem.

 

Davy F. If you don't have a problem then how does saying so here do anything positive to help those who do have a problem?
Perhaps my slightly arthritic fingers are at fault.

As an update, I've had a reply from Arai UK who tell me that they do have an optional longer strap but it's only
available to order, and only when their offices are open again.
So, hopefully I'll soon be happy with a longer strap and those who are happy with their existing strap can remain happy.

Paul.

 

I wonder if the US market helmets are a little different. The strap on my XD4 is like 8" long and i can barely slide the helmet off if i loosen it all the way. I normally fully unbuckle it anyway but i had to try it and see what happened. Its tight but doable for me with no scraped skin. Glad they make a longer one for those that want it.

RE: Nolan. My wife HATED her Nolan when she had it. She had an N90, it always and i mean always leaked wind and water from both the face shield as well as the chinbar. Nolan replaced the gaskets twice to no avail. It leaked enough wind to constantly trigger the vox on her comms and send wind noise into my helmet. The pinlock shield was also loose from the factory and the chinbar latch would sometimes require a second person(me) to open it for her since it would jam. It was really loud and the worst part is the single shell size that made her size small as big as my XL Schuberth so she looked like a bobblehead and it was so heavy it would hurt her neck. Overall the two years she used it was not a great experience for her and im glad we replaced it.

That got replaced with a Shoei Neotech 2, actually we both own Neotech 2's and we are both quite happy with them. I put the Neotech 2 right up there with my old Shuberth C3 for comfort, fit and quality. The C3 was just a tad quieter and i liked the interior materials slightly better but the Neotech is a lot better in the wind( feels totally neutral and is really resistant to buffeting) and has significantly better venting, the C3 was an oven. I also hated that the C3 face shield would not stay open past like 15mph. I know that they fixed that on the pro.

 

... the C3 was an oven. I also hated that the C3 face shield would not stay open past like 15mph. I know that they fixed that on the pro.

They did fix that issue with the Pro, however I do wish it vented better. I got talked into a C3 Pro by a buddy who swore by Schuberth and I do have to say I overall really like the helmet. But it isn't the best venting helmet I have ever owned.

For the XD4/Tour the Arai XD-4 Antifog Face Shield works really well. I like it so much more than the Pinlock. I know that has nothing to do with strap length, but recommended.

As for the straps being different for the US versions, who knows. Could be they use a longer strap for our fat 'Merican heads [emoji23]

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Job done,

Arai have fitted a longer strap to my Tour X4. The DD strap end is the same length but the longer threading end is now about 50mm or 2 inches longer. It now gives plenty of space to put on and take off the helmet without faffing about threading buckles. When the helmet is on and popper stud is closed the folded spare is only an inch longer than before so there are no flapping ends.

It seems I'm not the only one to favour this method .
It's not so much the time saving it's more the unnecessary fiddling about that
bugs me. If there's an easier way to do something why not use it.

Cheers Paul.

 

My goodness - I've wasted a lifetime already.

 

Yes I know, the time saving part of the video is a load of old b@llocks but you get the drift of it.

 

Not a problem @Goofy, and welcome to the Forum!

Feel free to introduce yourself at the New Member Introductions area of the Forum.

 

Sorry I can't remember the name of the person that I dealt with but I can tell you that I took my helmet in person to the UK Arai distributor 'MotoDirect' who are in based in South Normanton, Alfreton DE55 2FX.
I could have posted it to them, but the insured postage costs were more than the couple of gallons of fuel I used to drive there in the car.

Bear in mind it was during the aftermath of the first Covid lock down in June 2020 but I arranged an appointment , handed over my helmet to an Arai technician at the door and 20 minutes later drove away with the new longer length strap fitted.

 

Bear in mind it was during the aftermath of the first Covid lock down in June 2020 but I arranged an appointment , handed over my helmet to an Arai technician at the door and 20 minutes later drove away with the new longer length strap fitted.

Good service for sure. As a new owner of an XD4 that has never been on a ride yet, it's nice to know how easy they are with modifications and such.

Ah, maybe that is the difference? I never wear gloves to secure a helmet strap.

Funny, since scrolling through this post, my motorcycle instructor's "First Law of Motorcycling" has been ringing through my head: Helmet before gloves.

It has never occurred to me to keep the chin strap closed. I've always thought that it was better tightened each time for safety. Shows what I know!