I'll let you know in a few weeks when I install my set thats currently sitting in my basement. I plan to do a tubeless conversion with 3M 4412N at the same time.

I think they'll be great with my only concern being on cold wet pavement.

 

I know people that swear by them..I’ve ran several pairs on the klr back in the day without fault. Mileage in the smaller profile was 5000 miles. Some say the bigger ones are better. Keep us advised to wear, I’m sure they’ll do fine

 

You called it. Tires right now are whatever is available. I hadhese on my KLR but replaced them with Continental tkc 80s. If the shinko 804-805 was available, they are better for off road and comparable to the tkc 80 but are subject to his side slip due to the knobby pattern.

 

I had them on my KLR as well, and liked them for street use but not so much off road. I have 804/805’s on my AT now, and they seem ok but haven’t been off road yet.

 

705 is definitely a 90/10 to 80/20 tire. If you are looking for something more in the 50/50 catagory the Shinko 804/805 is the solution.

My wife really likes the Shinko tires, but she definitely favors the 804/895 after trying a set of the 705.

The TrailMax Mission is always available at the local shop near me, just had a new set put on my bike. But I know that doesn't do you much good in Canada.

Continental TKC-70'S are another option if your looking for a 70/30.

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I have them on my bike and I am happy with them . I had 805's before them and only got 5,000 miles on them . Last summer I rode a 4,000 mile trip on them and they preformed great. They are not a mud tire. But they handle good on dirt and gravel. Mileage is very good. They handle speed in twistys better then the 805's .They ride good and are not noisy. I rode them 80 mph thru rain in Kansas and they shed the water. I have 8,000 miles on them and there still in good shape. When these are not safe any more I will report the Mileage and they will be my next tires.

Enjoy the Ride
Ruff Rider

 

Thanks all. I appreciate the comments!

 

I have been wanting to replace my OEM Karoo Streets for a while, and I've now hit 8,000 km / 5,000 mi, so I thought the time was right. Plus, I'm going to Touratech in a couple of weeks.

Of course, tires are impossible to source. My first choice because of all the hubbub were Dunlop's Trailmax Missions - back-ordered everywhere. Congratulations, Dunlop, it took one swing to get into ADV relevance. My next choice was a tire I'd had before - Heidenau K60 Scouts, or the new Rangers. Just like the TMMs, they are as rare as unicorn farts.

Really, in all cases, it was often one of the tires that was sold out, sometimes both, but generally one. Very odd.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and went with everyone's Japanese designed Korean made favourite, the Shinko 705s. The amount of raving these get is amazing. I understand that they wear, which is good, as I want a long wearing tire as I do commute on the bike. They aren't terribly noisy. They were a couple of hundred dollars cheaper than the Micheline Anakee Adventures.

So how bad a choice did I make? Are they 90/10s dressed up as 50/50? I was hoping for 70/30 or better, so did I make a poor choice? Enquiring minds want to know.

I went with the Bridgestone AT41 for the set of tires I just grabbed for an out and back trip to Utah. I have a spare set of Karoo Streets (I really like them, grip in twisty's is great) and a set of AX41 (very knobby) to try but the Karoo Street I have on currently is looking like a 4500 mile rear tire which won't make the trip with a new set. I'm hoping the AT41 with dual compound will last longer.

The Bridgestones were the same price as Shinko 705 for the set and are modern multi compound tires (rear 90/90 is not). They have similar tread to the Karoo Street but slightly more narrow grooves.

I've run the 705 before and unfortunately for me it was the worst wet weather tire I've ever used by a large margin in cold wet conditions. I had used them out to Arizona and back to upstate NY and they were extremely bad in the wet on the way home. I won't run them again because of that experience. I've used Shinko Raven, Advance, 805, 712 before with good results. They aren't anything special just "ok" but would get the job done for the price.

Unfortunately the 705 rear tire has doubled in price from 5 years ago and they aren't a value tire anymore IMO when you can get new multi compound tires for basically the same price.

I'd call it a 80/20 from my experience with the tire. They do get ok tread life. About 6-7k on the rear and much more on the front when I used them on. Moto Guzzi Stelvio.

As you found tires are slim pickings at the moment. I did want to give the Trailmax Mission a try as well but they're out of stock everywhere.

 

Idid want to give the Trailmax Mission a try as well but they're out of stock everywhere.

You may want to check with your supplier to see how quickly they can get them in if you are interested. I just had a new set of Trailmax Missions put on my bike. I booked an appointment on a Tuesday for a Thursday dropoff to have the 16K service done. I asked the dealer to throw on a new set while it was there for the service. They didn't have them in stock but got them in by Thursday.

Also, Performance Cycle, a local shop here, always seems to have an inventory of them.

I think the "out of stocks" are temporary and perhaps due to the popularity, but they don't appear to be in short supply to where they can't get them in a couple of days.

 

I like the A41 and would buy them again for a long-life, very good handling wet/dry 90/10 tire. It would be interesting to read how you like the AT41 as a 80/20 tire.

 

I've read a lot of good on the A41 as a great sport touring tire.

I'll have run the A41, AX41 and AT41 over the course of the next year of so. AT41 goes on for this trip as I'm curious about how it is vs the Karoo Street.

I love the grip on the Karoo's for sporty pavement twisty's. I don't love the front tire whine at highway speed and the rear is looking like 4500 miles for me which is a bit low.

 

This guy, mentioned before, does the best reviews on youtube.

 

I just swapped a pair of Shinko 804 / 805 that wore out. I had put them on last summer for off roading, and then on short notice had to ride to Canada in fall. After ramming them through sand and mud for a summer I was amazed by how well they handled interstate, twisties, wet asphalt in heavy rain and bad urban streets. I found these knobbies preferable for ROAD RIDING to the 90/10 oem Bridgestones that came on my AT. In fact my only issue with them was how they handle off road. I imagine the 704/705 will be even better for you. Yes they wear out fast, but they’re so cheap and available and grip like crazy.

 

I just mounted a set of 705's on my "road" touring wheels. I am impressed. I just returned from a 4,000km trip through BC. I think they will make for a great commuter tire for you and then you can take them on trips on and off road.

Their rep was not good in the rain. I am here to tell you that I rode through hundreds of KMs of twisty roads in the rain. At one point, the rain was the hardest I have ever ridden through. 110kph through large puddles with no problem. I had one hard breaking episode with an animal. Again, no issues.

I bought the 705s as I figured they would do OK on easy dirt roads if I wanted to go explore some easier stuff. I ended up taking them on a few off-road exploits. Of course, they do not bite as well as my 50 / 50s but I was still amazed. I rode a bunch of difficult roads and trails and they did just fine. On climbs, I sometimes had to be gentle with the clutch and throttle, but still I went where I wanted to go. On faster dirt / gravel roads, they cornered better than I expected.

The nice thing about them was they also slide better than my 50 / 50s (when I wanted some slide action) so lots of fun to be had too : )

The only downside I found in my 4,000km was mud. They don't seem to like it.

The wear so far is negligible. I probably had about 80lbs of gear on the back of the bike for my last trip. I expect a good 10,000km if the tire keeps wearing at this rate.

Great tire at a great price.

 

@LukeWhere thank you! You have helped set aside a bunch of my fears with these tires. For that I am very grateful!

 

Enjoy. Rubber side down.

 

Looking forward to replacing my OEM Karoo Streets after 700 noisy miles. Picked up my new 705's today and should have them mounted in a week or so. Looking forward to a tire that I chose (instead of a bean counter), within the limitations of very limited tire stock everywhere I looked.

 

I have been wanting to replace my OEM Karoo Streets for a while, and I've now hit 8,000 km / 5,000 mi, so I thought the time was right. Plus, I'm going to Touratech in a couple of weeks.

Of course, tires are impossible to source. My first choice because of all the hubbub were Dunlop's Trailmax Missions - back-ordered everywhere. Congratulations, Dunlop, it took one swing to get into ADV relevance. My next choice was a tire I'd had before - Heidenau K60 Scouts, or the new Rangers. Just like the TMMs, they are as rare as unicorn farts.

Really, in all cases, it was often one of the tires that was sold out, sometimes both, but generally one. Very odd.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and went with everyone's Japanese designed Korean made favourite, the Shinko 705s. The amount of raving these get is amazing. I understand that they wear, which is good, as I want a long wearing tire as I do commute on the bike. They aren't terribly noisy. They were a couple of hundred dollars cheaper than the Micheline Anakee Adventures.

So how bad a choice did I make? Are they 90/10s dressed up as 50/50? I was hoping for 70/30 or better, so did I make a poor choice? Enquiring minds want to know.

Looking forward to replacing my OEM Karoo Streets after 700 noisy miles. Picked up my new 705's today and should have them mounted in a week or so. Looking forward to a tire that I chose (instead of a bean counter), within the limitations of very limited tire stock everywhere I looked.

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Looking forward to replacing my OEM Karoo Streets after 700 noisy miles. Picked up my new 705's today and should have them mounted in a week or so. Looking forward to a tire that I chose (instead of a bean counter), within the limitations of very limited tire stock everywhere I looked.

I got 24 000 kms out of a rear tyre Shinko 705 which is quite amazing,

 

I got 24 000 kms out of a rear tyre Shinko 705 which is quite amazing,

Even if that was on-road use, that is still very good for a mixed terrain tire.

 

That's great tire life. Do you do much gravel ATDiver?

 

So I had a chance to try out the Shinko 705s at the Touratech Rally last week. Honestly, they're great - with the immensely capable ATAS, it performed better than my former 650 V-Strom with K60 Scouts by a long mile. I never once felt like the tire wasn't able to handle what I was pushing it to do, but being a newb I wasn't pushing it to do much.

Thanks again, everyone!

 

Please keep me/us informed to the mileage, not that km stuff lol

 

Well, a handy tip is that in Windows, you can do lots of different conversions with the included calculator, including kilometers to miles. Same with the Android calculator, if I recall. Siri is of course too pretty, so you have to download another app.

I mention this because I often do such calculations to participate in discussions on this and other sites.

The easy conversion is that there are 1.6 KM in each mile. So, 5 miles is 8 KM.

 

 

Put mine on today. They are stiff buggers and difficult to install.

 

Just got back from a 50 mile ride; these tires are very different feeling vs the stock AX41T. They have changed the bike, one negative and 2 positive.

Sluggish or slow turning ability is the first thing I noticed. The nimble, quick, easy steering is no longer there. Its like the tires have 2x the gyroscopic effect resisting altering of direction.

Also, the bike feels much more stable with less affinity to change its line or position.

Last thing is they soak up road dip cracks and bumps way better. Its like the bike has been given a minor suspension upgrade of some sort.

Overall, a solid net positive IMO and I like them, especially if you consider the cost.

Wet and cold will take time to get feedback on.

 

I have been wanting to replace my OEM Karoo Streets for a while, and I've now hit 8,000 km / 5,000 mi, so I thought the time was right. Plus, I'm going to Touratech in a couple of weeks.

Of course, tires are impossible to source. My first choice because of all the hubbub were Dunlop's Trailmax Missions - back-ordered everywhere. Congratulations, Dunlop, it took one swing to get into ADV relevance. My next choice was a tire I'd had before - Heidenau K60 Scouts, or the new Rangers. Just like the TMMs, they are as rare as unicorn farts.

Really, in all cases, it was often one of the tires that was sold out, sometimes both, but generally one. Very odd.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and went with everyone's Japanese designed Korean made favourite, the Shinko 705s. The amount of raving these get is amazing. I understand that they wear, which is good, as I want a long wearing tire as I do commute on the bike. They aren't terribly noisy. They were a couple of hundred dollars cheaper than the Micheline Anakee Adventures.

So how bad a choice did I make? Are they 90/10s dressed up as 50/50? I was hoping for 70/30 or better, so did I make a poor choice? Enquiring minds want to know.

In Shinko I like the 805’s & 700’s
Kenda big block & k270
None of the above last very long but at the cost they really can’t be beat..

But still IMO the best is the Trailmax missions and a close second the Tractionator..

 

What I like most about the 705's is how they hang in there in sharpcurve twistys. I have never been afraid of them dishing out. They grip the road. I have rode right behind good riders on sport bikes and goldwings and I actually push them up to my limit of a 100. I only have 8,000 miles on them now but will probably change them next year because of age.

Enjoy the Ride
Ruff Rider

 

I don't do much gravel, mostly sealed country roads . I've done the Molesworth Station a couple of times (look it up ) 5 hrs two up at up to 120 kph in some places . No issues with the 705s