When I purchased my ATAS it came with a "tool kit" which consisted of a pouch, a screwdriver handle, a screwdriver blade that goes into the handle for either Phillips or flat head and a little plastic fuse puller. I just assumed the sparseness of this tool kit was due to cost-cutting. The other day I was looking at an online parts catalog and noticed the "Tool" subgroup of parts (see attached photo). It looks like its supposed to have some extra spanners, a 19 mm eye wrench and a sparkplug wrench. Did everyone else get the whole set? or does Honda just give you the ones i mentioned when you buy it?
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For the North American market, that IS the rest
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For the North American market, that IS the rest
As Cuchulainn says; that is all we get here, but that said, you can get MUCH better sets than Honda gives out, well they don’t really give them out, it is figured into the price of the bike anyway, if they are “included“. So you’d be better of just getting or assembling your own set; either way you would be paying for them, might as well get a good set..For the North American market, that IS the rest
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Yup, build your own tool set. If there comes a time when you need to use them you will be happy that you did
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I remember visiting a motorcycle junk yard (a sad paradise, I am sure you understand) and one corner of the property was bins of OEM tool kit pieces. The collection of vanilla wrenches was endless. I will never forget that.
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Just bought a new 2017 in the US - Allen wrench under the seat, screwdriver and fuse puller in the toolbox. Not impressed!!
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Yeah,
In decades past, EVERY motorcycle had a small, multiple piece tool kit with various wrench sizes, a uni-driver (screw driver with reversible tips) a really cheap set of pliers, maybe a gauge for the spark plug(s), a spark plug socket that doubled as an axle nut socket and one or two things more. They didn't expect you to completely disassemble and refurbish your motorcycle in the middle of Pikes peak. All they tried to do was, try to determine some common potential ailments and or not-so-critacle break-downs or needed adjustments (chain , maybe a cable housing adjustment etc.) and furnish a general assortment of tools that could handle lots of the small stuff.
Maybe Honda's thinking that this bike, the A/T, is just so, maintenance free, break-down proof, little adjustment needed at any period (and while out in the outback) that, they simply have determined the need for a tool Kit, just isn't there. This is all just kind-of a guess. So far, in a years worth of ownership and moderate street and off road riding, I've not needed any tools while out and about. I probably just jinsked myself.
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In decades past, EVERY motorcycle had a small, multiple piece tool kit with various wrench sizes, a uni-driver (screw driver with reversible tips) a really cheap set of pliers, maybe a gauge for the spark plug(s), a spark plug socket that doubled as an axle nut socket and one or two things more. They didn't expect you to completely disassemble and refurbish your motorcycle in the middle of Pikes peak. All they tried to do was, try to determine some common potential ailments and or not-so-critacle break-downs or needed adjustments (chain , maybe a cable housing adjustment etc.) and furnish a general assortment of tools that could handle lots of the small stuff.
Maybe Honda's thinking that this bike, the A/T, is just so, maintenance free, break-down proof, little adjustment needed at any period (and while out in the outback) that, they simply have determined the need for a tool Kit, just isn't there. This is all just kind-of a guess. So far, in a years worth of ownership and moderate street and off road riding, I've not needed any tools while out and about. I probably just jinsked myself.
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What about chain tension?
I think I have been guilty of adjusting mine too often on my older bike (2004 CB919). Wondering what other AT owners are doing as a norm?
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Heh, yeah, ... sadly par for the course @JohnAnderson24.
Welcome to the Forum and congrats on your AT acquisition!
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I have a little over 6000kms on mine. Combo of town, highway and some pretty hard off road riding. No chain adjustment needed yet. I check it often, like every other time out. Last time I checked (on side stand) it was not quite touching the underside of the swing arm.
I have a bag of Allen keys I’ve collected over the years in addition to ones I’ve purchased. I’ve probably got 5 or more of the same sizes included with the bike. The whole tool kit thing has become ridiculous.
Rather than just give us a couple pieces of junk and call it a “toolkit” they should just provide a slick/ easily accessible spot to store our own tools.
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I always assumed the thinking is that anyone who is going to field repair/maintain a bike is going to need more tools than they could ever supply and will without fail supply their own and that anyone who is going to use the included tools is never going to use them to field repair or maintain the bike. They are definitely a hold over from a long gone era when you may have actually needed to clean or adjust a spark plug on any random ride. But remove it completely and you might lose a customer because some similar bike has one, useless or not.
I don't carry tools on day pavement rides, but anything else I carry enough to effectively field strip the bike. The effort and cost of moving an entire bike to service a removable part on a long ride or down a FSR is made manageable by being able to remove parts and transport them to service. Unexpected failures happen, and if you are far from home, especially a foreign country, having skills and tools can make bad days a bit better.
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Inedible,
Your assumptions and statements are more than likely correct. However, the technical expertise of each individual rider definitely varies from rider to rider. Some, like you, may be able to "field strip" a bike and rebuild the engine on the side of a cliff. While others, waaaaaaaay less capable, might just know the basics of maintaining a motorcycle i.e. chain adjust, tire pressure, maybe even a spark plug change, oil change, air filter change etc. So, maybe your basic supplied "tool kit" is probably good enough for them. Hopefully, none of us have a need for any form of specialty tools while out having fun on the A/T. Pretty tough to do a chain adjust or even tire repair with an Allen wrench. I do see your points though.
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Your assumptions and statements are more than likely correct. However, the technical expertise of each individual rider definitely varies from rider to rider. Some, like you, may be able to "field strip" a bike and rebuild the engine on the side of a cliff. While others, waaaaaaaay less capable, might just know the basics of maintaining a motorcycle i.e. chain adjust, tire pressure, maybe even a spark plug change, oil change, air filter change etc. So, maybe your basic supplied "tool kit" is probably good enough for them. Hopefully, none of us have a need for any form of specialty tools while out having fun on the A/T. Pretty tough to do a chain adjust or even tire repair with an Allen wrench. I do see your points though.
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Just a thought. Removing the tool box completely by the owner may be a mistake, especially for 2018 and up. After hearing the replacement cost for the Lithium battery, it might be a disaster to permit curious eyes to spot the battery.
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I just left the box in place and store some spare master links in there.
I put my toolless tool box to work...
I mounted my aux 12v outlet on it...
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I mounted my aux 12v outlet on it...
New tool for the tool box
Found a use for the tool box, needed a 12v outlet for my air pump anyway..
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Do you have a list of what you ordered?
G'day :
I recently bought an 2018 Adventure Sports DCT.
Checking the tool bag, it matches what most of you got. (I didn't get the owner manual or the helmet loop cable though)
Something I notice is that Honda did not provide with tools to remove the tyres and tubes. That was a bit disappointing, considering that "adventure" people may have a flat tyre in the middle of the bush.
I recently bought an 2018 Adventure Sports DCT.
Checking the tool bag, it matches what most of you got. (I didn't get the owner manual or the helmet loop cable though)
Something I notice is that Honda did not provide with tools to remove the tyres and tubes. That was a bit disappointing, considering that "adventure" people may have a flat tyre in the middle of the bush.
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lol - that is much to ask from a Japanese motorcycle company these days.
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