Shinko 804/805 do really well in deep sand from what I understand, but we really don't have sand here to speak of. Still my wife really likes the 804/805 in general. In mud they tend to slide because the straight lines of the knobs don't offer lateral stability, but generally speaking we don't get a lot of deep mud here either. You will get it in some water crossings, but rarely elsewhere. Slick clay after a rain is far more common.Agreed Cuch. I'm running these tires now and have never gotten a taste of what happens when the tread fills with goo. BUT, I have run Shinkos 804/805s in Florida muck:
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and I'm here to tell you they have zero traction in this crap. Motorcycles can disappear up to their fenders in this stuff, so maybe it's not a fair comparison. Shinkos were better in deep sand because thay are like paddles, but in gooey crap, I would still bet on the Dunlops today all other things being equal. Now, have I run into deep goo with them? Not yet, and anything I couldn't get through quickly. They did well in those cases. Maybe not so well in long trails thru the stuff.
Hard to believe that tire has 4 or 5k miles on it. I just posted a picture of my rear tire with 4800 miles on it and it is in fantastic condition with at least 5k miles of wear left on it. I wonder if Dunlop changed compounds at some point and you had a much softer compound tire.Here are pics of my rear tire. Notice the 3” wide strip in the middle that is slick. Again, the first few thousand miles it had good tread and good off road grip. Now it rides like a street tire on gravel. I’ll have to check the mileage, I’m guessing it has around 4 to 5,000 miles on it.
Just burning through a set of AX41's. Amazing on dirt, rocks baby heads and even found some mud which the tires made it through with out issue. The tarmac will kill them quicker than you can say here's my wallet. If you are predominately riding dirt I can not say enough.
I just checked the new one in my garage and sure enough it has the "strip".